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#1 2008-05-17 08:58:58

IGottaWii
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Do you think a Backup Channel is possible?

Although it is hard to do, I think it is possible to have a channel read a back up disc.  I did some reading, and if ISO Loading was possible this would come first seeing how ISO Loading through a channel would be very hard.  Also, don't count on it coming soon, unless paradox is a miricle worker, because even creating this is EXTREMELY hard, despite being easier to make than an ISO Loader.

In my opinion, I would only like Backup loading, because I don't want to buy a huge HD. I rather have a disc.

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#2 2008-07-31 00:48:55

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Re: Do you think a Backup Channel is possible?

backup loading for sure. Many people would rather take that instead of ISO loader from HDD


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#3 2008-07-31 01:15:46

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Re: Do you think a Backup Channel is possible?

Paradox are liers


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#4 2008-07-31 01:16:20

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Re: Do you think a Backup Channel is possible?

i personally would rather do ISO loader from an HDD, im used to the PS2 HDD ISO Loader.


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#5 2008-07-31 03:53:55

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Re: Do you think a Backup Channel is possible?

I have a mod chip, but i can speak for all my friends who have dont have chips when i say.

I would rather it read burnt discs, instead of carrying around a stupid hdd with the wii, You could just carry a carry case with wii games in it.


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#6 2008-07-31 04:52:52

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Re: Do you think a Backup Channel is possible?

reading from a channel or hdd doesnt matter, being able to play backups without a chip would be great.


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#7 2008-07-31 12:31:21

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Re: Do you think a Backup Channel is possible?

Krazy got it in one. I think with the reports of the DVD drive being cracked, we will be able to load backups from a disc before we can load them from an HDD. I mean, we barely have USB driver support for Homebrew as it is, but to implement it in the Wii IOS? We'll lets look at our progress:
We could make the channel itself
We need some work to have it read from the HDD
We need a LOT of work to get the Wii to play the backup.

Future looks friendly


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#8 2008-07-31 14:46:01

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Re: Do you think a Backup Channel is possible?

The thing is reading backups from a channel without a mod chip may be bad for the Wii.


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#9 2008-07-31 14:58:04

DrFred
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Re: Do you think a Backup Channel is possible?

The_Wii_Nes_Boy wrote:

The thing is reading backups from a channel without a mod chip may be bad for the Wii.

How? I'm pretty sure it wouldn't do anything.

I'd say it is entirely possible, especially if someone else works out how to use the exploit bushing found.

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#10 2008-07-31 17:27:01

jarokoci
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Re: Do you think a Backup Channel is possible?

honestly i believe that theyre arent that many games worth burning
and the ones worth getting are the ones we buy


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#11 2008-07-31 21:19:17

The_Wii_Nes_Boy
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Re: Do you think a Backup Channel is possible?

@DrFred: If you can play backups from a softmod more and more people will stop buying games and download them, Games developers will stop making good games for the Wii because they don't want to lose money. PSP anyone!!!

@jarokoci: tell that to the big boys that sell the games at flea markets


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#12 2008-07-31 21:46:20

sk8mystery23
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Re: Do you think a Backup Channel is possible?

i thought the wii wasnt a PSP?!?!?!  HMMM?!

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#13 2008-07-31 22:14:29

krazywhiteguy310
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Re: Do you think a Backup Channel is possible?

he was meaning as in why software for the PSP is not selling, if more and more people start not buying wii software then it might turn into a PSP Software problem but I highly doubt that because the Wii is being aimed at more then just the gamers. Plus not everyone knows how to hack/mod a console, some people are also afraid of braking there investments.

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#14 2008-07-31 22:54:28

sk8mystery23
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Re: Do you think a Backup Channel is possible?

you still cant go around going the wii isnt a psp and stuff like that then come back and use the thing as a resource.. i know exactly what he meant... haha thats just my opinion i guess we all got em

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#15 2008-07-31 22:57:18

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Re: Do you think a Backup Channel is possible?

I hope it never goes the way of the PSP


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#16 2008-08-01 00:09:05

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Re: Do you think a Backup Channel is possible?

iso channel would be the chit. 9m sure that the first version would allow reading from dvd and the next version would read from a hdd. i would much rather run my backups from a hdd instead of a disc.


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#17 2008-08-01 10:02:39

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Re: Do you think a Backup Channel is possible?

This is how i see it.

Most people with modchips already.. want an HDD loader because they dont think for others and want to load games off of HDD to save money, disc and dvd drive life

Most people WITHOUT modchips just want to run backup games so they would prefer the Softmod


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#18 2008-08-02 18:02:21

icecoolwas
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Re: Do you think a Backup Channel is possible?

I've spoken to a few Hackers lately..

1. Nothing is impossible, It may be harder, but it's not impossible, if you think its impossible you basically fail.
2. If One made USB 2.0 drivers, Made HDD storage drivers, put them into a Iso reading channel, then put in a genuine game into the Wii such as Wiisports, ran the Iso from the HDD it would use the Disk drive as a genuine checker, it will pass then the hack would load the Iso but it would have on the fly readings from the disk.
3. Made Backup reading channel, Use DVD access Library, Download a Iso patch which would be like 2mb in size, The wii runs Iso, Iso tells Wii to read  the backup as some other dvd that any other dvd using program would do on the wii, the backup runs, The ISO aka Patcher goes into Memory and the wii keeps reading the patcher AKA on the fly patching telling the disk drive where to read the files.

Step 1, surely is true.
step 2, Will work, It may have like 3 sec slower loading times (at loading screens) but they could implement Read ahead buffer to ram memory, so only loading screens would be a little longer but in game there will be no lag.
step 3, would work but its really hard, ive spoken to waninkoko about it but its hard.

EDIT: How many times has someone said somethings Impossible?

1. you'll never be able to hack into wii Mode! - Ops it did, twilight hack!
2. Wii linux will never happen! wii is to crap - Whoops, I'm sure I saw a POC (Proof of concept) somewhere
3. Wii will never be able to hack the dvd disk drive to run our own dvds and such! - Meh thats why waninkoko's Cios can do it, and DVD acsess library
4. There will never be any backups for the wii without a modchip - Lets just wait, it will eventually happen, We have dvd acsess, we have the power what a modchip can do, yeah thats right, we just dont know how yet, we need to learn about the dvd drive a little more.

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#19 2008-08-18 06:48:34

Chickenz
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Registered: 2008-08-16
Posts: 28

Re: Do you think a Backup Channel is possible?

I like the idea of usb drivers I personally am surprised nintendo never done it themselves so you could use flash drives and hard drives instead of SD cards but I think they're choosing not to as it aids in playing illegal backups HDD would be cooler faster load time to most definately if it happened wink


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#20 2008-08-18 09:50:14

bilbo388
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Registered: 2008-08-11
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Re: Do you think a Backup Channel is possible?

i like the idea of a backup loader, but i think we should wait awhile. With everyone making emulators and games and utilities at the moment i think the homebrew scene is really good, but if backup loaders came, everyone would just jump on board and forget wii-linux, wii64, and other unfinished projects.

Also look how many wii games are coming out, (albeit a few are complete rubbish) with a backup loader games would just stop, as the wii nes boy said, anyone remember the psp?

Personally i think we should wait until at least there's a fully working n64 emulator, or a working psx emulator... AND until the game making (both homebrew and third party official) slow down a bit.

well that's my 2 cents lol smile

ps. i'm sort of saying this so i cant give into temptation and start downloading games.

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